{"id":244472,"date":"2020-08-26T08:55:51","date_gmt":"2020-08-26T08:55:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/acikgazete.com\/?p=244472"},"modified":"2020-08-27T07:16:14","modified_gmt":"2020-08-27T07:16:14","slug":"muzik-ar-sunan-askin-arsunan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/acikgazete.com\/muzik-ar-sunan-askin-arsunan\/","title":{"rendered":"M\u00dcZ\u0130K… \u201cAR SUNAN\u201d\u00a0A\u015eKIN ARSUNAN"},"content":{"rendered":"
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SEDAT YILDIRIM SARICI – Arsunan, soyad\u0131n\u0131n hakk\u0131yla tan\u0131mlanmas\u0131yla \u201car sunan\u201d nadir sanat\u00e7\u0131lar\u0131m\u0131zdan.\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

Ad\u0131yla de\u011fil, \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131 ve yaratt\u0131klar\u0131yla var olmay\u0131 ye\u011fleyenlerden. Neredeyse her t\u00fcrl\u00fc enstr\u00fcman\u0131n \u00e7al\u0131nd\u0131\u011f\u0131 bir ailede yeti\u015fmi\u015f. Janet Jackson, Tuna \u00d6tenel, Onno Tun\u00e7, Sertab Erener, Fatih Erko\u00e7, Sezen Aksu, Zuhal Olcay, Levent Y\u00fcksel, Lill Babs ve Modern Jazz\u2019\u0131n efsanevi gitaristlerinden John Scofield \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131 baz\u0131 tan\u0131nm\u0131\u015f isimler. E\u015fk\u0131ya ve Balalayka filmelerinin m\u00fczikleri de Arsunan\u2019a ait. \u201cOne a Day\u201d alb\u00fcm\u00fc, \u00fclkemizin usta cazc\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 bir araya getirdi\u011fi gibi, beste ve d\u00fczenlemeleriyle meslek erbab\u0131nda y\u00fcksek \u00f6l\u00e7\u00fc olarak \u00e7ok uzunca y\u0131llar cetvel vazifesini \u00fcstlenecek arma\u011fan niteli\u011finde. A\u015f\u0131k Veysel\u2019in eserini sahnede sunarken ozan\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 \u201cgelip de gitmeyenlerden\u201d diye \u00f6l\u00fcms\u00fczl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcyle tan\u0131ml\u0131yor.<\/b><\/p>\n

14 A\u011fustos ak\u015fam\u0131 G\u00fcm\u00fc\u015fl\u00fck\u2019te al\u00e7akg\u00f6n\u00fcll\u00fc\u011f\u00fcyle piyanonun sesini a\u00e7mayan ama do\u011fa\u00e7lamalar\u0131yla kalbimizi a\u00e7\u0131p sessiz sedas\u0131z kendisine yer a\u00e7an ustam\u0131z\u0131, dostlar\u0131 \u015eenova \u00dclker (Trompet\/B\u00fcy\u00fcl\u00fc), Hakan Behlil (Bas Gitar), ve Can Kozlu\u2019yla (Davul) birlikte canl\u0131 dinleme f\u0131rsat\u0131 bulduk. Sonra\u2019da s\u00f6yle\u015fiye ba\u015flad\u0131k.<\/b><\/p>\n

Sedat Sar\u0131c\u0131: A\u015fk\u0131n hocam, yurtd\u0131\u015f\u0131nda ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131m i\u00e7in yurti\u00e7i konser ve festivalleri fazlaca takip edemiyorum. Bilgisizli\u011fimden \u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fc aff\u0131n\u0131za s\u0131\u011f\u0131narak sorular\u0131ma ba\u015flamak isterim.<\/p>\n

Ad\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 ilkin A\u015fk\u0131n Nur Yengi\u2019nin doksanl\u0131 y\u0131llar\u0131n ba\u015f\u0131ndaki alb\u00fcm\u00fc \u201cS\u0131ram\u0131 Bekliyorum\u2019daki d\u00fczenlemenizde duymu\u015ftum. \u00c7ok titiz, armonik olarak doygun ve g\u00fcncel piyasa de\u011ferlerinden \u00f6te, kal\u0131c\u0131 kriterlere yasl\u0131 bir aranj\u00f6rl\u00fck hemen kendisini duyuruyor. O g\u00fcnlerden bu yana nereden bakarsak en az \u00e7eyrek as\u0131r ge\u00e7mi\u015f. Siz bu 25 y\u0131ll\u0131k s\u00fcre\u00e7te \u00fclkemiz m\u00fczi\u011finin nereye do\u011fru evrildi\u011fine dair bir \u015feyler s\u00f6ylemek ister misiniz?<\/p>\n

T\u0130CAR\u0130 GET\u0130R\u0130Y\u0130 DE\u011e\u0130L,<\/b><\/p>\n

SANATSAL KAYGILARI \u00d6NCELEMEK<\/b><\/p>\n

A\u015fk\u0131n Arsunan: \u0130\u015fin i\u00e7ine bilgisayar girince, i\u015f \u201dcopy-paste\u201de d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc. Yani bol bol ayn\u0131 \u015feylerin tekrar\u0131 yap\u0131l\u0131yor. \u00c7ok enteresand\u0131r ki, art\u0131k ciddi \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalara kimsenin merak\u0131 kalmad\u0131.\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

Esasen bu bir k\u00fclt\u00fcr meselesi, toplumumuz buna m\u00fcsaade etmeseydi b\u00f6yle bir \u015fey olmazd\u0131. T\u00fcrkiye\u2019deki m\u00fczik k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fc tek sesli bir gelenekten geldi\u011fi i\u00e7in armoniyi duyan, armoninin b\u00fct\u00fcn d\u00fcnyay\u0131 saran, de\u011fi\u015ftirebilen bir unsur oldu\u011fu yan\u0131 \u00fczerinde fazla hassas davran\u0131lmad\u0131. Ac\u0131 da olsa s\u00f6ylemek gerekirse, i\u015f biraz \u201ctencere kapak\u201d misali gibi.<\/b><\/p>\n

Bizler biraz ufku a\u00e7maya \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131k. Hi\u00e7 bir zaman sat\u0131\u015f olsun diye bir d\u00fczenleme yapmad\u0131m. Aksine plak\u00e7\u0131lar\u0131n ve artistlerin istedikleri sat\u0131\u015fa y\u00f6nelik d\u00fczenlemelerdi. Bense buna tamamen kar\u015f\u0131 durdum. Sezen Aksu gibi bana gelen artistlerin aranjelerinde hep i\u00e7ine \u00e7ok sesli armonizasyona uygun m\u00fczikler koydum. \u015eimdi o i\u015flerin \u00f6rnek al\u0131nd\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fcyorum. Mesela rahmetli Onno Tun\u00e7\u2019un da i\u015fleri hep b\u00f6yle \u00f6rnek al\u0131nacak i\u015flerdi. Yeni nesilden \u00e7o\u011fu ki\u015fi bunu takdir ediyor. Bana duyduklar\u0131 sayg\u0131dan dolay\u0131 bunu g\u00f6r\u00fcyorum, olumlu de\u011ferlendirmeler al\u0131yorum.\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

Ama ne yaz\u0131k ki, i\u015f o kadar ucuzlam\u0131\u015f ki, her \u015fey bir rant haline d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015fm\u00fc\u015f. Bu durumda halka sunulanlar \u201cvur patlas\u0131n, \u00e7al oynas\u0131n\u201d anlay\u0131\u015f\u0131 d\u00fczeyinde kal\u0131yor. Repete, repete, repete\u00a0<\/b>(repeat: tekrar).\u00a0\u00a0O insanlardan yeni bir \u015fey \u00e7\u0131kmas\u0131na imkan yok. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc \u201cthey do not research\u201d.\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

Sedat Sar\u0131c\u0131: Yani ara\u015ft\u0131rma yok.<\/p>\n

\u0130Y\u0130 TERZ\u0130LER P\u0130YASADAN S\u0130L\u0130ND\u0130LER<\/b><\/p>\n

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A\u015eKIN ARSUNAN<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

A\u015fk\u0131n Arsunan: Ara\u015ft\u0131rma yok. Talep neyse, ona cevap vermece var. Terzi gibi, istenilene g\u00f6re elbise dikiliyor. Al g\u00fcl\u00fcm, ver g\u00fcl\u00fcm d\u00fcnyas\u0131. Zaten iyi terziler de piyasadan silindi, biliyorsun.\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

Esasen ka\u00e7t\u0131lar. Ben \u015fahsen ka\u00e7t\u0131m. O pop i\u015flerinden ve o camiadan ka\u00e7mak i\u00e7in telefonumu bile de\u011fi\u015ftirdim. Zaten yurtd\u0131\u015f\u0131nda ikamet ediyordum. Sezen Aksu \u00e7a\u011f\u0131rd\u0131\u011f\u0131 zaman veya rahmetli Onno Tun\u00e7 \u00e7a\u011f\u0131rd\u0131\u011f\u0131 zaman geliyordum. \u0130\u015fimi yap\u0131p, hemen arkas\u0131ndan d\u00f6n\u00fcyordum. Ama o d\u00f6nem ve insanlar\u0131n m\u00fczi\u011fe olan tutumlar\u0131 beni \u00e7ok yordu. Burada Sezen\u2019i ayr\u0131 tutmak isterim. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc Sezen her zaman yeniliklere a\u00e7\u0131k oldu. Ve her zaman da alb\u00fcmlerinde yer verdi.<\/b><\/p>\n

Sedat Sar\u0131c\u0131: Konserlerinizde Dave Brubeck ve Paul Desmond imzal\u0131 \u201cTake Five” ve \u201cBlue Rondo a la Turk\u201d gibi par\u00e7alar\u0131n olduk\u00e7a farkl\u0131 d\u00fczenlemelerini dinliyoruz. Her iki par\u00e7ada Dave Brubeck\u2019in 1950\u2019li y\u0131llardaki T\u00fcrkiye\u2019yi de kapsayan turnesi esnas\u0131nda bizden duydu\u011fu ritmler sonucu do\u011fdu. \u201cTake Five\u201d d\u00fcnyada milyondan fazla sat\u0131lan ilk caz par\u00e7as\u0131 olmu\u015f. Caz m\u00fczi\u011fin yayg\u0131nla\u015fmas\u0131nda, \u00fcniversite gen\u00e7li\u011fi aras\u0131nda da takibe ba\u015flanmas\u0131nda Dave Brubeck Quartet ve bu par\u00e7alar\u0131n b\u00fcy\u00fck \u00f6nemi var. Dave Brubeck\u2019in o\u011flu Darius Brubeck, Y\u0131ld\u0131z Teknik \u00dcniversitesi\u2019nde de dersler vermi\u015f. Yani gayri bizden, bu topra\u011f\u0131n \u00e7ocu\u011fu say\u0131l\u0131rlar. Sizin bu par\u00e7alar\u0131 se\u00e7menizin \u00f6zel bir nedeni var m\u0131?<\/p>\n

A\u015fk\u0131n Arsunan: \u201cTake Five\u201d her zaman sevdi\u011fimiz par\u00e7a. D\u00fcnya caz klasikleri aras\u0131nda. \u0130lk defa ad\u0131ma solo alb\u00fcm \u00e7\u0131kar\u0131yordum ve bu bir caz alb\u00fcm\u00fcyd\u00fc. Kendi formumda d\u00fczenledim. Hatta Dave Brubeck\u2019in o\u011flu Darius T\u00fcrkiye\u2019ye gelmi\u015fti. Tan\u0131\u015ft\u0131k onunla. Bir alb\u00fcm\u00fcm\u00fc hediye etmi\u015ftim Dave Brubeck\u2019e ula\u015ft\u0131rs\u0131n diye. Sonra onlardan \u00e7ok g\u00fczel bulduklar\u0131n\u0131 ve \u00e7ok be\u011fendiklerini ifade ettikleri, tebrik anlam\u0131nda \u00e7ok g\u00fczel bir bir e-mail ald\u0131m. \u201cTake Five\u201d benim i\u00e7in o.<\/b><\/p>\n

Sedat Sar\u0131c\u0131: San\u0131r\u0131m Darius Brubeck de T\u00fcrkiye\u2019yi \u00e7ok seviyor.<\/p>\n

A\u015fk\u0131n Arsunan. Aynen \u00f6yle. Babas\u0131 da \u00f6yle. Biliyorsun, \u00fclkemize gelip bizim ritmlerimize besteler yapan besteci say\u0131s\u0131 fazla de\u011fil. Demek ki \u00fclkemizi onlar da \u00e7ok sevmi\u015f olmal\u0131.\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

Tabii, o d\u00f6nem onlar\u0131 burada kar\u015f\u0131layan a\u011fabeylerimiz \u00e7ok de\u011ferli m\u00fczisyenlerdi. Hepsi nurlar i\u00e7inde olsunlar. Onun i\u00e7in onlar da geldikleri zaman kendilerini \u00e7ok yabanc\u0131 bir yerde hissetmediler. O tarihlerde Amerikal\u0131lar T\u00fcrkiye\u2019yi muhtemelen Arabistan gibi zannediyorlard\u0131. Ama burada cazla ilgilenen m\u00fczisyenlerimizi g\u00f6rd\u00fcler. Elbette misafirperverli\u011fimiz de \u00e7ok \u00f6nemli. Herhalde etkilenip bu eserleri yazd\u0131lar.\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

Sedat Sar\u0131c\u0131: \u201cTake Five\u201d d\u00fczenlemesine d\u00f6necek olursak, par\u00e7a bestecinin ilk kayd\u0131nda ve konserlerinde hep be\u015f zamanl\u0131 (5\/4) seyrediyor. Par\u00e7an\u0131n 6\/8\u2019lik ve 4\/4\u2019l\u00fck hallerini de hat\u0131rl\u0131yorum ama sizin d\u00fczenlemenizde, bir ka\u00e7 defa saymaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131ysam da tam tutturamad\u0131m, takip edemedim. Yani \u00f6zg\u00fcrce ama ayn\u0131 zamanda ustaca merkezden uzakla\u015fm\u0131\u015fs\u0131n\u0131z. Tamam\u0131yla kendi yakla\u015f\u0131m\u0131n\u0131z hissediliyor.<\/p>\n

A\u015fk\u0131n Arsunan: Te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederim.<\/b><\/p>\n

Sedat Sar\u0131c\u0131: Benzer bir soruyu bir ka\u00e7 hafta \u00f6nceki s\u00f6yle\u015fimizde Erkan O\u011fur ve \u0130smail Demircio\u011flu\u2019na da t\u00fcrk\u00fclerimizin yeniden d\u00fczenlenmesi \u00fczerine sormu\u015ftum. Siz bu t\u00fcr klasikle\u015fen eserlerin d\u00fczenlenmesinde, y\u00f6r\u00fcngeye veya gelene\u011fe sadakatin mi, yoksa merkezden uzakla\u015fman\u0131n m\u0131 pe\u015finde olmal\u0131y\u0131z sorusunu nas\u0131l cevaplamak istersiniz?<\/p>\n

K\u0130MSEYE BENZEMEMEYE \u00c7ALI\u015eTIM\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

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A\u015eKIN ARSUNAN<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

A\u015fk\u0131n Arsunan: Benim yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m aranjeleri dinlerseniz, caz ya da pop olsun, kimseyi \u00f6rnek almadan aranjelerimi yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131 fark edeceksiniz. Mesela Onno Tun\u00e7\u2019u kendime \u00f6rnek alabilirdim ki, rahmetli m\u00fcthi\u015f bir m\u00fczisyendi\u2026 Ama ben tamamen yeni bir \u015fey yazmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. Hep kendime has, daha \u00f6zg\u00fcn bir yol se\u00e7tim. Kimseye benzememeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. Ve yurt d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda da ayn\u0131 \u015feyi yapt\u0131m.<\/b><\/p>\n

Fransa\u2019dan Kanada\u2019ya, Brezilya\u2019dan Rusya\u2019ya orkestra y\u00f6neten \u015feflerimizden Erol Erdin\u00e7 \u201cTake Five\u201d\u2019\u0131n benim yorumumla ilgili Facebook\u2019ta bir \u015fey yazm\u0131\u015f. \u201cCaz m\u00fczi\u011fi az bir bilgiyle yap\u0131labilecek bir \u015fey de\u011fil, farkl\u0131 bir \u015feyler dinlemek isteyenler Arsunan\u2019\u0131n Take Five yorumunu dinlemeli\u201d demi\u015f. Ne diyeyim; can\u0131m T\u00fcrkiyem, burada herkes bir \u015fekilde yapmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yor.\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

Sedat Sar\u0131c\u0131: Zaten biz Summer Time, Misty, Fly Me to the Moon gibi caz klasiklerini dinledi\u011fimizde orijinal temadan \u00e7ok farkl\u0131 yerlere giden d\u00fczenlemelerle kar\u015f\u0131la\u015f\u0131yoruz. Her m\u00fczisyen kendi nefesini hissettiriyor. Mesela Keith Jarrett\u2019de par\u00e7a neredeyse biterken hangi klasik oldu\u011funu zar zor anlayabiliyoruz. Yani hep merkezden uzakla\u015fma s\u00f6z konusu.<\/p>\n

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SADIK KALMAK \u0130STEYENLER CAZ M\u00dcZ\u0130\u011e\u0130 \u00c7ALMASINLAR<\/b><\/p>\n

A\u015fk\u0131n Arsunan: Sad\u0131k kalmak isteyenler caz m\u00fczi\u011fi \u00e7almas\u0131nlar. O biraz klasik m\u00fczi\u011fe ait bir \u015fey. Caz tamamen bir \u201cfreedom\u201d\u00a0<\/b>(\u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fck). Caz armonisini bildi\u011finizde do\u011fa\u00e7lama yapars\u0131n\u0131z. Do\u011fa\u00e7lamay\u0131 bir daha \u00e7alman\u0131z\u0131n imkan\u0131 yoktur. Onun i\u00e7in \u201clive\u201d\u00a0<\/b>(canl\u0131). O do\u011fa\u00e7lama bir gecelik. Bu y\u00fczden top yek\u00fcn \u00f6zg\u00fcrl\u00fck. Do\u011fa\u00e7lama, o gece y\u0131ld\u0131zlar g\u00f6ky\u00fcz\u00fcne nas\u0131l serpilmi\u015fse, tamamen o geceye has bir yarat\u0131m. Astroloji, ailenin i\u00e7 huzuru, mutluluk. Hepsi o gecenin i\u00e7inde.\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

Sedat Sar\u0131c\u0131: Tamam. Canl\u0131 performans olarak, her \u015fey o gecenin i\u00e7inde ama aranj\u00f6r olarak \u00f6nceden masa ba\u015f\u0131na oturup ya da piyanoyla ba\u015f ba\u015fa par\u00e7ay\u0131 d\u00fczenlerken, evinizde kendi ba\u015f\u0131nas\u0131n\u0131z. Par\u00e7ay\u0131 kafan\u0131zda tasarl\u0131yorsunuz. Sonra st\u00fcdyoda ya da provada di\u011fer orkestra \u00fcyelerine tasar\u0131m\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 aktar\u0131yorsunuz. Bu a\u015famada da bir \u015feye ba\u011f\u0131ml\u0131 kalmadan m\u0131 ilerliyorsunuz?<\/p>\n

\u0130MZA ALIYORLAR<\/b><\/p>\n

A\u015fk\u0131n Arsunan: Evet. Ben s\u00fcrekli \u00fcreten bir insan\u0131m. Buldu\u011fum \u015feyin hep daha iyisini arar\u0131m. Daha \u00f6zg\u00fcr, daha iyi bir neticenin pe\u015findeyimdir. Daha provada ilk ge\u00e7i\u015fte bile ben bazen, \u201cbi dakka buray\u0131 yeniden yaz\u0131yorum\u201d deyip de\u011fi\u015ftirdi\u011fim oluyor. Ge\u00e7en ak\u015fam bizi dinledin. Trompette \u015eenova \u00dclker ustam\u0131z var. Art\u0131k \u015eenova bunun bir \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fcn\u00fc buldu. \u201cTamam m\u0131 A\u015fk\u0131n\u2019c\u0131\u011f\u0131m, bu son mu\u201d deyip, benden imza al\u0131yorlar.<\/b><\/p>\n

Sedat Sar\u0131c\u0131: Bunu da yazmak isterim. \u201cD\u00fczenlemenin son \u015feklidir\u201d diye imza al\u0131yorlar.<\/p>\n

A\u015fk\u0131n Arsunan: Yaz tabii. \u015eenova\u2019dan bahset \u015eenova\u2019dan.<\/b><\/p>\n

Sedat Sar\u0131c\u0131: Not ald\u0131m abi. Zaten \u015eenova abimiz do\u011fa\u00e7lamalar\u0131yla y\u00fcrekleri hoplat\u0131yor.<\/p>\n

A\u015fk\u0131n Arsunan: \u0130mzadan sonra de\u011fi\u015ftirmiyorum. Yoksa oras\u0131 sonsuz, biliyorsun.<\/b><\/p>\n

Sedat Sar\u0131c\u0131: Yurtd\u0131\u015f\u0131nda da m\u00fcziksel \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131n\u0131z oldu\u011fundan repertuara dair bir \u015fey sormak istiyorum. Karakteristik olarak bizim m\u00fczi\u011fimizi and\u0131ran \u201cBlue Rondo ala Turk\u201d, \u201cTake Five\u201d veya Dick Dale\u2019in d\u00fczenlemesiyle \u201cM\u0131s\u0131rlou\u201d hep elo\u011flunun eliyle kendisini var etmi\u015f eserler. Mozart\u2019\u0131n \u201cTurkish March\u2019 da \u00f6yle.<\/p>\n

Biz neden caz klasikleri aras\u0131na bizim karakterimizi, makam veya ritmlerimizi yans\u0131tabilecek eserler kazand\u0131ram\u0131yoruz?<\/p>\n

A\u015fk\u0131n Arsunan: Paul Desmond der ki \u201cIt can not be learnt. But it can be taught\u201d\u00a0<\/b>\u00a0(\u00f6\u011frenilemez ama \u00f6\u011fretilebilir).\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

Yirmi yirmibe\u015f y\u0131l \u00f6ncesi beni \u0130\u015f Bankas\u0131 \u00e7a\u011f\u0131rd\u0131. Yunus Emre\u2019nin s\u00f6zlerini yeniden bestelememi ve b\u00fcy\u00fck orkestraya uyarlamam\u0131 istediler. \u0130\u015f Bankas\u0131\u2019n\u0131n kurulu\u015funun kutlama etkinlikleri dahilindeydi. Ka\u00e7 senesiydi \u015fimdi hat\u0131rlayam\u0131yorum. Biz bunu b\u00fcy\u00fck orkestrayla yapt\u0131k. Par\u00e7an\u0131n intro\u2019su (giri\u015fi) 20 dakika s\u00fcrd\u00fc. Dans gruplar\u0131 da vard\u0131 ve m\u00fcthi\u015f bir projeydi. Rahmetli Atilla \u00d6zdemiro\u011flu ile birlikte yapm\u0131\u015ft\u0131k.<\/b><\/p>\n

D\u00d6RT GECE, BE\u015e G\u00dcND\u00dcZ B\u0130R SAN\u0130YE UYUMADIM\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

O projeyi 4 gece 5 g\u00fcnd\u00fcz hi\u00e7 uyumadan bitirebildim. Mar Ajans\u2019la projeyi y\u00fcr\u00fct\u00fcyorduk. Hayat\u0131mda bir ilktir. Bir saniye bile hi\u00e7 uyumad\u0131m. Bir defal\u0131\u011f\u0131na Topkap\u0131\u2019da sergilendi. Sonra kay\u0131tlar \u00e7ok yaz\u0131k ki bir \u015fekilde kayboldu. Ona \u00e7ok \u00fczg\u00fcn\u00fcm. \u00c7ok b\u00fcy\u00fck u\u011fra\u015f verdim o \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmaya.\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

Sedat Sar\u0131c\u0131: Sizin armonizasyonunuzla t\u00fcrk\u00fclerimizin kayd\u0131 T\u00fcrkiye i\u00e7in b\u00fcy\u00fck kazan\u00e7 olacakt\u0131r. Ke\u015fke o kay\u0131tlar kaybolmasaym\u0131\u015f.<\/p>\n

BUNUN G\u0130B\u0130 PROJELER YAPMAK \u0130ST\u0130YORUM\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

A\u015fk\u0131n Arsunan: Ne diyorsun, b\u00fcy\u00fck orkestrayla birlikte T\u00fcrk enstr\u00fcmanlar\u0131 ve opera korosu da vard\u0131. Muazzez Abac\u0131\u2019ya sadece bir c\u00fcmle okutuyordum. O \u00e7\u0131k\u0131yordu tekrar b\u00fcy\u00fck orkestra giriyordu. Her taraf d\u00f6n\u00fcyor, b\u00fct\u00fcn evren d\u00f6n\u00fcyordu. \u00d6yle bir yerlere gidiyoruz ki, Afrika\u2019dan ge\u00e7iyoruz, Amerika\u2019dan, Frans\u0131z devriminden, Rusya\u2019n\u0131n bozk\u0131rlar\u0131ndan \u00e7\u0131k\u0131p sonra \u0130stanbul\u2019un g\u00f6be\u011fine, Topkap\u0131 M\u00fczesi\u2019ne konuyoruz. Muazzez Abac\u0131 \u00e7ok etkilenmi\u015fti. M\u00fcthi\u015f bir projeydi. Bunun gibi projeler yapmak istiyorum.\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

Ama bu \u00fclke enteresan. \u00c7ok isterdim, K\u00fclt\u00fcr Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131\u2019n\u0131n bana gelip,\u201dA\u015fk\u0131n bey, biz sizden bu \u00fclkeyi yurtd\u0131\u015f\u0131nda tan\u0131tacak bir eser yazman\u0131z\u0131 istiyoruz\u201d demelerini. Senelerce bunu bekledim ben.\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

Sedat Sar\u0131c\u0131: Okay Temiz a\u011fabeyim de bana, \u201cK\u00fclt\u00fcr Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131\u2019na gitti\u011fimizde, sadece \u00e7ay ikram ediyorlar\u201d demi\u015fti.<\/p>\n

Bana g\u00f6re, Uzun \u0130nce Bir Yolday\u0131m\u2019\u0131n ana temas\u0131 Fly Me to the Moon\u2019dan daha kal\u0131c\u0131 ve kendisine has bir \u00e7izgiye sahip. Armoniye uygunlu\u011fu sebebiyle de neredeyse el atmayan kalmad\u0131. S\u00f6zler de felsefik derinlik olarak hak etti\u011fi \u00fczere hali haz\u0131rda klasikle\u015fmi\u015f durumda. O zaman neyimiz eksik kal\u0131yor da, sesimizi yayg\u0131nla\u015ft\u0131ram\u0131yoruz?<\/p>\n

BURADA YAPILAN \u0130\u015eLERDE O GRAMAJI TUTTURAMIYORLAR<\/b><\/p>\n

\u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc burada yap\u0131lan i\u015flerde o gramaj\u0131 tutturam\u0131yorlar. Bizim geleneksel m\u00fczi\u011fimizden gelen \u00e7eyrek notalar\u0131 bir Bat\u0131l\u0131n\u0131n duyabilece\u011fi \u00f6yle bir yerlere yerle\u015ftirebilmen laz\u0131m ki, onu rahats\u0131z edici bulmas\u0131n. Bunu armoninin i\u00e7inde yedirebilirsiniz. Bunu burada beceremiyorlar. Yapt\u0131klar\u0131 i\u015f ya \u00e7ok fazla caz oluyor, ya da \u00e7ok fazla ala Turka. Tabii ki, g\u00fczel \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar da olmu\u015f olabilir ama yeterli noktaya \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnm\u00fcyorum.<\/b><\/p>\n

Sedat Sar\u0131c\u0131: \u00d6zellikle bu cevab\u0131n\u0131z i\u00e7in \u00e7ok te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederim. Asl\u0131nda s\u00f6yle\u015fimin ana ama\u00e7lar\u0131ndan biri de buydu. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc A\u015fk\u0131n Arsunan, her iki m\u00fczik d\u00fcnyas\u0131n\u0131 da tan\u0131yor. Armonik, melodik, ritmik akrabal\u0131klar\u0131n i\u00e7inde.<\/p>\n

Sizi dinlerken bazen Joe Zawinul\u2019u hissediyorum. Olduk\u00e7a \u00e7a\u011fda\u015f bir yakla\u015f\u0131m\u0131n\u0131z var. Bu \u00e7a\u011fda\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131zla de\u011ferlendirmelerinizin gen\u00e7 ku\u015fa\u011fa \u0131\u015f\u0131k tutaca\u011f\u0131na inan\u0131yorum.<\/p>\n

A\u015fk\u0131n Arsunan: Joe Zawinul\u2019u \u00e7ok severim. Weather Report da \u00f6yle.<\/b><\/p>\n

Sedat Sar\u0131c\u0131: Ben de sizinle tan\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131zdan bu yana sinsi sinsi, sessiz sessiz sustum. \u201cBombay\u0131 tam da konu a\u00e7\u0131l\u0131nca patlatay\u0131m\u201d dedim. \u0130yi ki susmu\u015fum. Bir konu\u015fmaya ba\u015flasaym\u0131\u015f\u0131m, sorulardan cevap vermenize zaman kalmayacakt\u0131. Konuya d\u00f6necek olursak, sadelikle caz\u0131 \u00e7ok ustaca birle\u015ftiren ustalardan s\u00f6z ediyoruz.<\/p>\n

ORADA H\u0130\u00c7 BENC\u0130LL\u0130K OLMAZ<\/b><\/p>\n

A\u015fk\u0131n Arsunan: Evet. \u0130\u015fin ruh k\u0131sm\u0131ndan bahsediyoruz, demektir. Ruh k\u0131sm\u0131 \u00e7ok \u00f6nemli. Sen o ruhu yabanc\u0131yla, Afganl\u0131yla, Irakl\u0131yla, Amerikal\u0131yla, Almanla bir titre\u015fimi hissetmen laz\u0131m. \u00c7arp\u0131nt\u0131n\u0131n ge\u00e7mesi laz\u0131m kar\u015f\u0131 tarafa. Orada hi\u00e7 bencillik olmaz.<\/b><\/p>\n

B\u00f6yle projeler olmal\u0131 T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de. \u0130n\u015fallah b\u00f6yle teklifler gelir. Bana 6-7 ay versinler, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019yi k\u00fclt\u00fcr ve sanat a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan d\u00fcnya kriterleriyle bulu\u015ftural\u0131m.<\/b><\/p>\n

\u0130NSANLAR \u0130LK \u00d6NCE SANATLA B\u0130RLE\u015e\u0130RLER\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

Bir de \u015fu var. Avrupa Birli\u011fi\u2019yle filan o kadar kopu\u011fuz ki. Bizi k\u00fclt\u00fcr olarak o kadar a\u015fa\u011f\u0131l\u0131yorlar ki. Biliyorsun, insanlar ilk \u00f6nce sanatla birle\u015firler. Sanat \u00e7ok \u00f6nemli. Kayna\u015ft\u0131r\u0131c\u0131. Paray\u0131 pulu \u00f6nceli\u011fimize almadan, bir kenarda b\u0131rakarak, \u00f6ncelikle sanatla onlar\u0131n g\u00fcvenini ve sevgisini kazanman laz\u0131m, ondan sonra \u00f6teki i\u015fler konu\u015fulabilir.\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

Salt klasik eserlerin tekrar\u0131yla da bu i\u015f olmaz. Yeni bir \u015feylerin olmas\u0131 yeni eserlerin yaz\u0131lmas\u0131 laz\u0131m. Ara\u015ft\u0131rmalar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n olmas\u0131 gerekir. Bu i\u015f i\u00e7in k\u00fct\u00fcphaneler yetmez.\u00a0 \u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

Sedat Sar\u0131c\u0131: Kat\u0131l\u0131r m\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z, emin de\u011filim ama sanki 1980\u2019ler sonras\u0131 m\u00fcziksel tarihi s\u00fcre\u00e7 olarak tam \u00e7ak\u0131\u015fmasa da, genel bir toparlamayla, senfonik m\u00fczikte \u201catonal d\u00f6nem\u201d, caz da, \u201cfree-jazz\u201d, rock\u2019da sonu gelmez gitar sololarla \u201cheavy metal\u201d, pop\u2019da elektronik yapay evre sanki konser salonlar\u0131n\u0131n bo\u015falmas\u0131na neden oldu. \u015eimdi son 20 y\u0131ld\u0131r bir toparlanma d\u00f6nemi ba\u015fl\u0131yor gibi. Sanki organik olana ve do\u011faya d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f var. Sizce k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fck kl\u00fcplerden yeniden a\u00e7\u0131k hava tiyatrolar\u0131na, stadyum konserlerine d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015fecek bir d\u00f6nem yeniden olu\u015fabilir mi?<\/p>\n

ARTIK K\u0130MSEN\u0130N L\u00dcZUMSUZ B\u0130R \u015eEYE TAHAMM\u00dcL\u00dc YOK<\/b><\/p>\n

A\u015fk\u0131n Arsunan: Tabii ki. Bug\u00fcn\u00fcn d\u00fcnyas\u0131nda kimsenin kimseye verebilece\u011fi bir 10 saniyesi yok. E\u011fer insanlara 3 saniyede, en fazla 5 saniyede hitap edebiliyorsan\u0131z, o ki\u015fi yerine oturuyor. E\u011fer 5 saniyeyi a\u015farsan\u0131z insanlar\u0131n sabr\u0131 yok. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc art\u0131k uzaktan kumandalarla pat diye kanal\u0131 de\u011fi\u015ftiriyorlar. Bu sebeblerle uzun do\u011fa\u00e7lamalar\u0131 seven m\u00fczisyenler de, \u201cbiraz bu i\u015fi toparlamal\u0131y\u0131z\u201d demeye ba\u015flad\u0131lar. B\u00f6yle daha uygun oldu. Art\u0131k kimsenin l\u00fczumsuz bir \u015feye tahamm\u00fcl\u00fc yok.<\/b><\/p>\n

Konser salonuna gelen m\u00fczikseverlere g\u00f6zlerini kapatt\u0131rman ve sanki farkl\u0131 bir diyara gitmi\u015f gibi gezdirmen laz\u0131m. \u0130nsanlar\u0131n konsantre s\u00fcresi de \u00e7ok k\u0131sald\u0131. Sosyal medya insanlar\u0131 \u00e7ok \u015fartland\u0131r\u0131yor. Kimse art\u0131k bir m\u00fczik alb\u00fcm\u00fcn\u00fc ba\u015ftan sona dinlemiyor. En fazla iki par\u00e7ay\u0131 dinleyip bir ba\u015fka alb\u00fcme ge\u00e7mek istiyor insanlar.\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

Sedat Sar\u0131c\u0131: Caz m\u00fczi\u011finin devleri, Chick Corea, Stanley Clarke, Omar Hakim, Aziza Mustafa Zadeh gibi isimler birlikte alb\u00fcmlerde yan yana gelebiliyorlar. Ya da Al Di Meola, Paco de Lucia, John McLaughlin gibi zirvedeki virt\u00fc\u00f6zler ayn\u0131 sahnede bulu\u015fup, birlikte konserler verebiliyorlar. Siz de, ne g\u00fczel Tuna \u00d6tenel\u2019le birlikte kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131kl\u0131 piyano \u00e7alm\u0131\u015ft\u0131n\u0131z. \u0130ki ustay\u0131 birlikte dinleyebilmi\u015ftik.<\/p>\n

Sizin gibi \u00fclkemizin lokomotiflerini, alb\u00fcmleriyle ba\u015f\u0131 \u00e7eken Erkan O\u011fur, Okay Temiz, G\u00fcrol A\u011f\u0131rba\u015f gibi lokomotiflerimizle birlikte konser ve alb\u00fcmlerde yan yana g\u00f6rebilmeyi, yeni eserlere do\u011fru yol alabilmeyi \u00e7ok isteriz. Lokomotifler birli\u011fi olabilir mi? Sizce \u00fclkemizde bu t\u00fcr birliktelikler yeterince var m\u0131? \u0130lerde var olur mu?<\/p>\n

A\u015fk\u0131n Arsunan: Bence olabilir. Sadece herkesin biraz egosunu kontrol alt\u0131nda tutabilmesi laz\u0131m. Herbie Hancock herkesle birlikte \u00e7al\u0131yor. Bizde de olmal\u0131. Ama dikkat edersen biz de genellikle herkes hep \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131 kimselerle birlikte \u00e7al\u0131yor. \u201cFarkl\u0131 bir renk katal\u0131m\u201d diye fazla bir u\u011fra\u015f veren pek yok.\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

Sedat Sar\u0131c\u0131: Bir s\u00f6yle\u015finizde \u201cM\u00fczisyenlerin topra\u011fa ve do\u011faya d\u00f6nmesi gerek.\u201d diyorsunuz. Bu iki kavram\u0131 sadece m\u00fczik teknolojisinin elektronikle\u015fmesi \u00fczerine mi anlamal\u0131y\u0131z, yoksa bast\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z topra\u011f\u0131n m\u00fczi\u011fi olarak da yeniden bir toparlanmaya y\u00f6nelik bir \u00e7a\u011fr\u0131 olarak m\u0131 alg\u0131lamal\u0131y\u0131z?<\/p>\n

A\u015fk\u0131n Arsunan: Soruna gelece\u011fim ama konuya \u015furadan gelmek isterim. Zaten bu i\u015fi yapan kimseleri toplasak iki elin parmaklar\u0131n\u0131 ge\u00e7mez. Bin bir g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fcklerle bu i\u015fi devam ettirmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yoruz. Mesela Ayd\u0131n Esen d\u00fcnya \u00e7ap\u0131ndaki \u00e7ok ender m\u00fczisyenlerimizden. Neden Ayd\u0131n Esen konserleri uzunca bir s\u00fcredir olmuyor. Sahip \u00e7\u0131k\u0131lmas\u0131 gerekir. B\u00f6yle \u00e7ok \u00f6nemli m\u00fczisyenlerimiz var. Ni\u00e7in bu insanlara sahip \u00e7\u0131k\u0131lm\u0131yor?<\/b><\/p>\n

E\u011fer bu topra\u011fa sahip \u00e7\u0131kmak istiyorsak, bu topra\u011f\u0131 ifade edebilecek kimselerle konu\u015fmak, dan\u0131\u015fmak gerek. De ki, \u201c\u015f\u00f6yle bir \u015fey yapar m\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z?\u201d\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

Bu anlamda bu kimselere nefes vermek gerek, projelere \u00e7ekmek gerek.\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

Yoksa hep kalbimiz yurdumuz i\u00e7in \u00e7arpt\u0131, \u00e7arpacak. Benim gibi kimseler hi\u00e7 bir zaman ticari piyasa de\u011ferleri i\u00e7in m\u00fczik yapmad\u0131lar. Ben her zaman yeni gelecek nesilin bir ad\u0131m \u00f6tesinde, onlara emsal olabilecek i\u015flerin pe\u015finden ko\u015ftum.<\/b><\/p>\n

D\u00dcNYADA DO\u011eRU M\u00dcZ\u0130K YAPARAK EKMEK YEMEK \u00c7OK ZOR\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

12 y\u0131l \u00f6nce kaydetmi\u015f oldu\u011fum bir alb\u00fcm\u00fc bir m\u00fczik yap\u0131mc\u0131s\u0131na gidip de \u201chaydi \u015funun bas\u0131m ve da\u011f\u0131t\u0131m i\u015fini yapal\u0131m\u201d diyebilecek bir a\u015fk\u0131, heyecan\u0131 insan\u0131n i\u00e7inde b\u0131rakmad\u0131lar.\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

D\u00fcnyada do\u011fru m\u00fczik yaparak ekmek yemek \u00e7ok zor. Biz \u00e7ok b\u00fcy\u00fck bir fedakarl\u0131k yap\u0131yoruz. Devlet ya da \u00f6zel sekt\u00f6re ait olsun sanat kurumlar\u0131n\u0131n ba\u015f\u0131nda olanlar\u0131n sanat yarat\u0131c\u0131lar\u0131na sahip \u00e7\u0131kmas\u0131, yarat\u0131ma y\u00f6nelik \u00f6nermelerle desteklemesi gerekir. Senin gibi kimseler b\u00f6yle sanat kurumlar\u0131n\u0131n ba\u015f\u0131nda olsa \u00e7ok daha b\u00fcy\u00fck ad\u0131mlar atar\u0131z, d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncesindeyim.<\/b><\/p>\n

Sedat Sar\u0131c\u0131: Amman a\u011fabeyim, \u00e7ok te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederim. Evdekiler benim ku\u015f beyinli oldu\u011fumu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyor.<\/p>\n

S\u00f6yle\u015fi i\u00e7in \u00e7ok \u00e7ok te\u015fekk\u00fcr ediyorum.<\/p>\n

A\u015fk\u0131n Arsunan: Ben de \u00e7ok te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederim. Sedat\u00e7\u0131\u011f\u0131m seni tan\u0131d\u0131\u011f\u0131ma \u00e7ok memnunum. \u0130yi ki vars\u0131n.\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n

Sedat Sar\u0131c\u0131: Sizinle s\u00f6yle\u015fi ve bu de\u011ferlendirmeleri okurlara aktarmak benim i\u00e7in onur. Tekrar te\u015fekk\u00fcr ederim. \u0130yi \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar diliyorum.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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